Discussion:
Latin declension mnemonics
Raphaela
2011-02-08 11:21:16 UTC
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Greetings all,

I have a friend who recently began to study Latin and reports some
difficulty in memorising the declensional endings. Would anyone be
able to point me towards useful mnemonics for this purpose? (I'm sure
that the same thing for verb conjugations would be welcome too.)
I'm aware of Godley's "Motor Bus" poem, but there must surely be
others as well.

English mnemonics would be most useful for my friend, but he can cope
with German as well, so I would welcome German contributions too if
anyone cares to post them.

Thanks in advance
Raphaela Jaksch
Thomas Ruefner
2011-02-08 11:31:05 UTC
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Ūnus, sōlus, tōtus, ūllus,
uter, alter, neuter, nūllus
und uterque haben alle
-īus in dem zweiten Falle
und im dritten enden sie
wie alius mit langem -ī.

See: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Merkspr%C3%BCchen#Latein

Bet

Thomas
Post by Raphaela
Greetings all,
I have a friend who recently began to study Latin and reports some
difficulty in memorising the declensional endings. Would anyone be
able to point me towards useful mnemonics for this purpose? (I'm sure
that the same thing for verb conjugations would be welcome too.)
I'm aware of Godley's "Motor Bus" poem, but there must surely be
others as well.
English mnemonics would be most useful for my friend, but he can cope
with German as well, so I would welcome German contributions too if
anyone cares to post them.
Thanks in advance
Raphaela Jaksch
--
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Professur für Bürgerliches Recht, Römisches Recht,
Neuere Privatrechtsgeschichte sowie Deutsches und
Internationales Zivilverfahrensrecht
Universität Trier
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Raphaela
2011-02-08 13:47:04 UTC
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Post by Thomas Ruefner
Ūnus, sōlus, tōtus, ūllus,
uter, alter, neuter, nūllus
und uterque haben alle
-īus in dem zweiten Falle
und im dritten enden sie
wie alius mit langem -ī.
Thank you! That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for.

Raphaela
Alice P. Radin
2011-02-08 14:44:23 UTC
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Here are some songs that I adapted from what I remembered of songs I
learned from my first Latin teacher [back in the last millennium].
These three are all to be sung to the tune of "Tres Mures Caeci" [I
don't have to trnslate that, do I?]


Demonstrative Adjectives/Pronouns

Hic, haec, hoc;
Huius, huius, huius;
Huic, huic, huic;
Hunc, hanc, hoc;
Hōc, hāc, hōc is my ablative;
I can be pronoun or adjective;
Just like ille and is, ea, id:
Sing HIC, HAEC, HOC!


THE RELATIVE PRONOUN

QUĪ, QUAE, QUOD;

CUIUS, CUIUS, CUIUS;

CUI, CUI, CUI;

QUEM, QUAM, QUOD;

QUŌ, QUĀ, QUŌ is my ABLATIVE.

I am the pronoun called RELATIVE.

[Decline me like ille and is, ea, id!]

SING QUĪ, QUAE, QUOD!

Quī, quae, quae;
Quōrum quārum, quōrum;
Quibus, quibus, quibus;
Quōs, quās, quae;
Quibus, quibus, quibus is the ablative
Of the PLURAL of the pronoun called relative.
In the plural I don't scan and I hardly even rhyme
BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN ME
AT THE VERY SAME TIME!
Sing quī, quae, quae!




Future of the Third and Fourth

DUCAM, DUCĒS, DUCET,

DUCĒMIS, DUCĒTIS, DUCENT:

The FUTURE of the THIRD

(THIRD -I Ō and the FOURTH).

REMEMBER that they have NO -bo, -bi, -bu!

ONLY the FIRST and SECOND ones do,

SO USE the A and E

In the FUTURE of FOUR and THREE!



There was always a lot of humming going on in my classes during
quizzes and translation exams!

I just cut & pasted these songs from some old handouts I still have in
a folder on my computer. I would be happy to send attachments of the
full handouts [many other topics in Latin & Greek but mostly without
songs!] to anyone who would find them useful. Write to me off-list,
and I'll tell you what I've got.

Okay, among my favorites are my deponent verb handout PFAM! [to be
chanted to the Monty Python bit Spam Spam Spam] which stands for
Passive Forms, Active Meanings.

Hope thesehelp!

Alice
Michael F. Lane
2011-02-08 16:07:01 UTC
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Very nice!
Post by Alice P. Radin
Here are some songs that I adapted from what I remembered of songs I
learned from my first Latin teacher [back in the last millennium].
These three are all to be sung to the tune of "Tres Mures Caeci" [I
don't have to trnslate that, do I?]
Demonstrative Adjectives/Pronouns
Hic, haec, hoc;
Huius, huius, huius;
Huic, huic, huic;
Hunc, hanc, hoc;
H�, h�, h� is my ablative;
I can be pronoun or adjective;
Sing HIC, HAEC, HOC!
THE RELATIVE PRONOUN
QUΔͺ, QUAE, QUOD;
CUIUS, CUIUS, CUIUS;
CUI, CUI, CUI;
QUEM, QUAM, QUOD;
QU� QU� QU�is my ABLATIVE.
I am the pronoun called RELATIVE.
[Decline me like ille and is, ea, id!]
SING QUΔͺ, QUAE, QUOD!
QuΔ«, quae, quae;
Qu�um qu�um, qu�um;
Quibus, quibus, quibus;
Qu�, qu�, quae;
Quibus, quibus, quibus is the ablative
Of the PLURAL of the pronoun called relative.
In the plural I don't scan and I hardly even rhyme
BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN ME
AT THE VERY SAME TIME!
Sing quΔ«, quae, quae!
Future of the Third and Fourth
DUCAM, DUC�, DUCET,
The FUTURE of the THIRD
(THIRD -I Ε�and the FOURTH).
REMEMBER that they have NO -bo, -bi, -bu!
ONLY the FIRST and SECOND ones do,
SO USE the A and E
In the FUTURE of FOUR and THREE!
There was always a lot of humming going on in my classes during
quizzes and translation exams!
I just cut & pasted these songs from some old handouts I still have in
a folder on my computer. I would be happy to send attachments of the
full handouts [many other topics in Latin & Greek but mostly without
songs!] to anyone who would find them useful. Write to me off-list,
and I'll tell you what I've got.
Okay, among my favorites are my deponent verb handout PFAM! [to be
chanted to the Monty Python bit Spam Spam Spam] which stands for
Passive Forms, Active Meanings.
Hope thesehelp!
Alice
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University of Maryland, Baltimore County
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Laval Hunsucker
2011-02-09 21:59:48 UTC
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Post by Thomas Ruefner
See: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Merkspr%C3%BCchen#Latein
Neat !

You can also use that resource, I see, for ancient history. For example :

"Sieben, fünf, drei – Rom kroch/schlüpft aus dem Ei." ( Gründung Roms )
or
"Drei, drei, drei – bei Issos Keilerei" ( Schlacht bei Issos )

Asronomy too :

"Mein Vater erklärt mir jeden Sonntag unseren Nachthimmel" ( Reihenfolge der
Planeten unseres Sonnensystems (von der Sonne aus) ) [ i.e., initial letters ]


And it's got *much, much* more.


- Laval Hunsucker
Breukelen, Nederland



----- Original Message ----
From: Thomas Ruefner <***@UNI-TRIER.DE>
To: CLASSICS-***@LSV.UKY.EDU
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 12:31:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CLASSICS-L] Latin declension mnemonics

Ūnus, sōlus, tōtus, ūllus,
uter, alter, neuter, nūllus
und uterque haben alle
-īus in dem zweiten Falle
und im dritten enden sie
wie alius mit langem -ī.

See: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Merkspr%C3%BCchen#Latein

Bet

Thomas
Post by Thomas Ruefner
Greetings all,
I have a friend who recently began to study Latin and reports some
difficulty in memorising the declensional endings. Would anyone be
able to point me towards useful mnemonics for this purpose? (I'm sure
that the same thing for verb conjugations would be welcome too.)
I'm aware of Godley's "Motor Bus" poem, but there must surely be
others as well.
English mnemonics would be most useful for my friend, but he can cope with
German as well, so I would welcome German contributions too if anyone cares to
post them.
Thanks in advance
Raphaela Jaksch
-- Prof. Dr. Thomas Rüfner
Professur für Bürgerliches Recht, Römisches Recht,
Neuere Privatrechtsgeschichte sowie Deutsches und
Internationales Zivilverfahrensrecht Universität Trier
54286 Trier

Tel.: +49(651)201-2563
Fax: +49(651)201-3828
Laval Hunsucker
2011-02-09 22:09:33 UTC
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Post by Laval Hunsucker
"Mein Vater erklärt mir jeden Sonntag unseren Nachthimmel" ( Reihenfolge
der Planeten unseres Sonnensystems (von der Sonne aus) ) [ i.e., initial
letters ]
Oh, for the Pluto fans --- I forgot the alternative :

"Mein Vater erklärt mir jeden Sonntag unsere neun Planeten." ( Planeten
unseres Sonnensystems mit Pluto )


- Laval Hunsucker




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Laval Hunsucker
2011-02-15 12:15:56 UTC
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This just rolled across my screen, and I thought that
it would surely be of interest/entertainment to some
persons here :

"Alésia : qui ment ? César ou les archéologues ?"

etc. etc., at :

http://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/alesia-qui-ment-cesar-ou-les-88856


- Laval Hunsucker
Antwerpen, België




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Laval Hunsucker
2011-02-15 12:48:24 UTC
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This AFP report, which appeared this morning, could
well be of interest to many on this list :

Le Point.fr - Publié le 15/02/2011 à 07:35 - Modifié le 15/02/2011 à 10:53

"Partenariat entre Versailles et Wikimedia"
"Le gestionnaire de Wikipedia et le monument historique ont signé un accord pour
mieux diffuser les informations culturelles."

etc.etc. -- full text of the article at :

http://www.lepoint.fr/high-tech-internet/partenariat-entre-versailles-et-wikimedia-15-02-2011-1295451_47.php


Also e.g. at :

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/culture/le-chateau-de-versailles-se-lie-avec-wikimedia-france-pour-alimenter-wikipedia_962639.html


"Le Château de Versailles se lie avec Wikimedia France pour alimenter Wikipedia"

publié le 15/02/2011 à 11:33


Note the formulation : "afin d'alimenter et d'améliorer
les contenus de l'information" ; and the mention, also,
of the Bibliothèque nationale de France.



- Laval Hunsucker
Antwerpen, België
Laval Hunsucker
2011-02-15 21:20:36 UTC
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I just noticed this AFP dispatch, dated yesterday afternoon :

"Deux des pièces volées au Musée égyptien du Caire retrouvées

publié le 14/02/2011 à 14:59

LE CAIRE - Deux des pièces volées au Musée égyptien du Caire pendant les
manifestations antigouvernementales ont été retrouvées dans le jardin entourant
le bâtiment, ont annoncé lundi les autorités égyptiennes.

"Les recherches qui ont eu lieu à l'intérieur et à l'extérieur du Musée égyptien
pour (retrouver) les pièces archéologiques perdues ont abouti à la découverte de
certaines" d'entre elles, a déclaré dans un communiqué le secrétaire d'Etat aux
Antiquités, Zahi Hawass."

etc. -- at e.g. :

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/culture/deux-des-pieces-volees-au-musee-egyptien-du-caire-retrouvees_962318.html



- Laval Hunsucker
Breukelen, Nederland

Annette Pohlke
2011-02-08 16:04:17 UTC
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Only German, sorry.

Additionally to what can be found on the wiki page:

Memorizing the vowels that indicate the future form for most coniugations (a-e-e-e-e-e):

Wer das vergißt ist ein KAmEEEEEl.

To memorize the largest groups of words in the i-declension class (sorry in case the English terminology is different): remember the word "ArEAl" (means: words that are neutrum and end on -ar, -e, or -al are usualy i-declension).

Keep writing, I am collecting myself.

Annette Pohlke
Post by Raphaela
Greetings all,
I have a friend who recently began to study Latin and reports some
difficulty in memorising the declensional endings. Would anyone be
able to point me towards useful mnemonics for this purpose? (I'm sure
that the same thing for verb conjugations would be welcome too.)
I'm aware of Godley's "Motor Bus" poem, but there must surely be
others as well.
English mnemonics would be most useful for my friend, but he can cope
with German as well, so I would welcome German contributions too if
anyone cares to post them.
Thanks in advance
Raphaela Jaksch
Raphaela
2011-02-09 11:28:00 UTC
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Many thanks to Alice P. Radin and Annette Pohlke for their
suggestions.

Raphaela Jaksch
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